There are a remarkable amount of similarities between 2019 Lakers (led by Lebron), and 2005 Lakers (led by Kobe)
Both teams were led by superstars that were expected to make the playoffs although not contend. However, both teams disappointed and didn’t (probably) make the playoffs
Both teams started out well (20-14 for 2019 Lakers and 19-15 for 2005 Lakers) before their superstars got injured.
Both teams lost ground during the injuries (2019 Lakers were 26-25 when Lebron returned, 2005 Lakers were 25-23 when Kobe returned), but were still in good enough position for their superstars to take them on a run to make the playoffs.
However, both teams disappointed by doing even worse once their superstars returned, despite said superstars putting up good stats. Critics of said superstars were particularly harsh about their defense (2005 Lakers finished 30th in defense and Kobe didn’t make All Defense the only time during his prime) while others claimed the rest of the team was so horrible that no one could take said teams to the playoffs.
Both superstars were “punished” by only making All-NBA 3rd team (Lebron will probably be a 3rd team Forward).
Also both superstars were criticized for putting themselves in a bad team situation due to off the court issues. Kobe was blamed for driving away Shaq and Phil Jackson, while Lebron is blamed for joining a mediocre team and for killing their chemistry by trying to trade everyone for AD.
[–]Knicksjohnhenryirons 804 points 8 hours ago
Both teams had Luke Walton.
[–]ThunderManicaLewinsky 354 points 7 hours ago
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
[–]jiir_mesou 14 points 2 hours ago
I had a awful day! But r/nba always make me laugh! Thank you!
[–]RaptorsCheechers23 1306 points 10 hours ago
LeBron on All-NBA Third Team...
Man that's crazy to think about
[–]Heatwormhole222[S] 645 points 10 hours ago
I felt pretty safe in predicting that. He's Lebron so voters give him a huge benefit of the doubt; however, I think we can confidently say Giannis, KD, and PG are clearly above him. That just leaves Kawhi who Lebron has a statistical argument over, but the win difference between both teams should be enough to give Kawhi the nod. I wouldn't be shocked if Lebron makes 2nd team, but I think it will go to Kawhi.
[–]RaptorsCheechers23 233 points 10 hours ago*
I agree. I do expect it to go to LeBron just cause it’s the media. Kawhi should get it though
[–]76ersDrewFlan 101 points 9 hours ago
I mean, 27/8.5/8 is a fucking great statline to average.
[–]RocketsMrTheNoodles 82 points 7 hours ago
Harden averaged 29/6.1/7.5 and didn't make an All-NBA team in 2016 lol
[–]Rocketspraisejoshgordon 49 points 6 hours ago
And his team made the playoffs, and Harden didn't miss 20 games
[–]stuckinatrance 28 points 8 hours ago
It is, but if you watch these games man it just doesnt look good.
[–]76erstim-whale 92 points 9 hours ago
well i've personally never seen lebron and kobe in the same room before
[–]TheBurner4567 277 points 10 hours ago
05 lakers also had a mid season coaching change
[–]Clippersdocmartens 115 points 10 hours ago
Time is a flat circle
[–]Lakersfreqtuner23 56 points 9 hours ago
I’ll add to this, both 2005 and 2019 had front office moves that focused around cutting salary and maintaining cap space for the following free agent markets while also developing talent. Hopefully we do better than smush Parker, Kwame brown, Chris mihm this time around.
[–]Knickskevinknix 35 points 10 hours ago
and I think it was around that time that Kobe almost became a Bull.
Didn't want to go into the details as my memory was a little hazy, but I think Kobe wanted that move.
[–]Therealbenji17 274 points 11 hours ago
Be careful.. Hardcore Kobe fans love to forget about this and will grill you for it.. lmao.
[–]LakersAfk94 16 points 6 hours ago
We had Chris Mihm and Chucky Atkins as starters. Lebron has a much better team.
[–]CavaliersDeanBlandino 314 points 10 hours ago
Nah man. It’s way worse for lebron to miss playoffs with a bad team in his 16th year than Kobe to miss the playoffs in his prime. Or look at Jordan. He had the dignity and respect for the game. Every time he felt like not playing he retired. We all know not playing is far greater than halfassing when you realize your season is over.
To sum it up, anything bad lebron does is twice as bad as anyone else doing it, and if Kobe or mj did it then it doesn’t count. It’s incredible what smush did for Kobe’s career and how straight quitting proves mj never quits.
[–]Mavericksmakami- 124 points 10 hours ago
Jordan "quit" after winning 3 consecutive championships, the last of which he averaged 41/8.5/6 in the finals lol. Also the first player ever to win 3 consecutive final MVPs. You're acting like he quit after things got tough. Not to mention he took up baseball because that's what his late father wanted him to be
[–]SpursGGezpzMuppy 35 points 11 hours ago
Lebron knew this year was a “gap year”, especially with all the recruits being one year contract fill ins.
[–]Pistonsrando1817 93 points 11 hours ago
Yea but that’s a bs excuse for missing the playoffs. It was supposed to be a gap year in that the lakers were supposed to be the 6-8 seed and lose in the first round
[–]destroyingstupidity 35 points 9 hours ago
I think these are similar comparisons.. if we completely ignore talent on roster.
2005 lakers were drastically worse in terms of talent. Extremely weak squad.